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[17:54:53] <kaustavdm> hi all
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[17:59:09] <kaustavdm> amani_glugcal: I'm ironing out bugs in the glugcal source
[18:00:47] <satabdi> Lets start! shall we?
[18:01:40] <kaustavdm> sure
[18:02:00] <amani_glugcal> kaustavdm fine
[18:02:39] <satabdi> great - Here are 4 items - I listed in my mail 1. I've bought the domain name but we need to figure out hosting.
[18:02:39] <satabdi> 2. Website - Kaustav and Mani have some suggestions on the lines of new glugcal website. Let discuss about it and try to finalize.
[18:02:39] <satabdi> 3. If anybody wants to share anything on the last hackathon ?
[18:02:39] <satabdi> 4. Plan for next online event on 15 June
[18:02:53] <amani_glugcal> we will adapt the same code for wfs-india. I can help with config tasks and admin
[18:03:15] <satabdi> great - but before that we need hosting
[18:03:18] <amani_glugcal> and content :)
[18:03:24] <satabdi> and it seems hosting is costly
[18:03:31] <amani_glugcal> hosting?
[18:03:36] <amani_glugcal> where
[18:03:38] <satabdi> amani_glugcal, is there any way glugcal can give us hosting?
[18:04:00] <amani_glugcal> will need to ask JP Mathews
[18:04:10] <satabdi> could you please do that
[18:04:36] <amani_glugcal> He is not in Kolkata for 3 weeks so will not have access to server
[18:04:43] <amani_glugcal> but ok will ask
[18:05:00] <amani_glugcal> we can take a 3 month hostiing
[18:05:15] <amani_glugcal> at godaddy?
[18:05:32] <satabdi> how much does that charge?
[18:05:43] <amani_glugcal> Rs 149
[18:05:52] <satabdi> what about after 3 months?
[18:05:56] <satabdi> renew it?
[18:06:05] <amani_glugcal> change hosting
[18:06:45] <amani_glugcal> let me check with JPM fuirst
[18:06:48] <kaustavdm> amani_glugcal: the issue at point is drupal's requirements
[18:07:02] <kaustavdm> godaddy is not known to be a good web host
[18:07:29] <kaustavdm> satabdi, do you need email accounts as well?
[18:07:39] <amani_glugcal> Awardspace is $35/year
[18:07:54] <satabdi> email account would be nice - because for twitter/ github account they ask for email a/cs
[18:08:05] <satabdi> at present I've created a gmail one
[18:08:06] <kaustavdm> for a limited time, I can host wfs-india on my company's account
[18:08:22] <kaustavdm> the same one that runs glugcal's dev server now
[18:08:30] <kaustavdm> on webfaction
[18:08:34] <satabdi> $35 is costly given that we do not have any funding
[18:08:58] <satabdi> kaustavdm, how long?
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[18:09:41] <kaustavdm> satabdi, rather, the amount of resource I can provide is about 10-15GB of disk space, and about 75-80GB of monthly bandwidth
[18:10:08] <kaustavdm> so long as these resources do not exceed, and there is not too much traffic on the site to ask for a separate server for it
[18:11:12] <satabdi> umm - i do not think there will be super-busy traffic on wfs-india - some during online events - but not much - what do you all think?
[18:11:51] <kaustavdm> so do i
[18:11:59] <amani_glugcal> kaustavdm it will take a lot of time to exceed that
[18:12:03] <amani_glugcal> fine
[18:12:24] <kaustavdm> if you want personal email accounts @wfs-india.org, I can create them, but please use pop to pull them to your local account
[18:12:28] <kaustavdm> like gmail or your computer
[18:13:00] <satabdi> I think one official email account will do
[18:13:14] <kaustavdm> okay
[18:13:16] <satabdi> I do not want any personal email account
[18:13:27] <kaustavdm> alright
[18:13:34] <amani_glugcal> mailman?
[18:14:28] <amani_glugcal> event@wfs-india.org
[18:14:31] <satabdi> mailman would be good - kaustavdm can that be done? although the google group is working now - but it would be good to have less dependency on google
[18:14:58] <amani_glugcal> admin@wfs-india.org
[18:15:38] <kaustavdm> satabdi, sure. Let me see. I don't think webfaction has any limits on number of outgoing emails
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[18:16:52] <satabdi> great
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[18:17:06] <satabdi> so our hosting related problem is solved then
[18:17:18] <kaustavdm> Each WebFaction account comes with an unlimited number of Mailman mailing lists, with web-based administration tools and user-driven opt-in and unsubscribe actions.
[18:17:23] <kaustavdm> That should do it, satabdi
[18:17:34] <amani_glugcal> next item
[18:17:45] <satabdi> yes
[18:18:03] <satabdi> now website
[18:18:20] <satabdi> so are we taking the glugcal one?
[18:18:29] <satabdi> for one it would save a lot of our effort
[18:18:51] <satabdi> we will get it pretty soon
[18:19:02] <satabdi> kaustavdm, I think the work on it pretty much complete isn't it?
[18:19:04] <amani_glugcal> yes, and adjusting colors logo
[18:19:06] <amani_glugcal> etc
[18:19:24] <amani_glugcal> no it is not complete
[18:19:33] <amani_glugcal> but almost
[18:19:41] <satabdi> okay
[18:20:11] <kaustavdm> satabdi, as amani_glugcal said, it is almost complete
[18:20:23] <kaustavdm> it is going through the first feedback loop to fix possible issues
[18:20:35] <satabdi> personally, I do not like drupal much - but given that we would get it much sooner than building it ourselves and amani_glugcal has volunteered for the admin role, I vote for it
[18:20:46] <amani_glugcal> For event what more needs to be done on website
[18:20:52] <satabdi> SunuTheNinja, chandankumar guys - what do you think?
[18:21:15] <kaustavdm> satabdi, it is the speed why we had chosen drupal for the glugcal site as well. Many things that we would have coded in django were present for drupal
[18:21:53] <debamitro> amani_glugcal: we need a mission statement, clear explanation of what we plan to do, and most importantly promotional material for the event
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[18:22:14] <satabdi> kaustavdm, we are planning an event on 15th June - will it be ready before that?
[18:22:24] <amani_glugcal> debamitro I will write one ... discuss and add
[18:22:44] <amani_glugcal> forms on website support?
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[18:22:46] <debamitro> amani_glugcal: sure, personally I liked the objectives of ubuntu-women the most
[18:23:25] <kaustavdm> satabdi, if you don't have much issues with the present theme, I can pull it off in a few hours after solving present bugs in glugcal source :-)
[18:23:42] <kaustavdm> satabdi, in the meanwhile, please forward nameservers to webfaction
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[18:23:55] <amani_glugcal> We were WFS and Culture at dreamwidth
[18:24:06] <amani_glugcal> ?
[18:24:06] <kaustavdm> amani_glugcal, there is a webform support in the website
[18:24:08] <satabdi> kaustavdm, let me have a look at it - have had a tremendously busy day - could not look it up
[18:24:26] <satabdi> amani_glugcal, yes
[18:24:27] <amani_glugcal> kaustavdm, good
[18:24:27] <kaustavdm> you can create as many custom forms as you like, and i think submission results can be exported to CSV as well
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[18:24:39] <kaustavdm> satabdi, http://glugcal.kaustavdm.webfactional.com
[18:24:48] <kaustavdm> Source is at https://github.com
[18:25:57] <debamitro> kaustavdm: nice font -- what is it?
[18:26:13] <satabdi> kaustavdm, thank you . it's good - minimalistic
[18:26:16] * SunuTheNinja waves hello.
[18:26:24] <SunuTheNinja> sorry for being late.
[18:26:31] * SunuTheNinja reads backlog
[18:26:32] * kaustavdm says hi to SunuTheNinja, but he should go study
[18:26:43] <debamitro> SunuTheNinja: welcome you are
[18:26:56] <kaustavdm> debamitro, satabdi, it is a readymade theme, I have just plugged it in
[18:27:02] <SunuTheNinja> kaustavdm: No problems. I'll pass :)
[18:27:20] <kaustavdm> debamitro: it uses the HelveticaNeue font family
[18:27:30] <kaustavdm> SunuTheNinja, just kidding :-P
[18:27:58] <kaustavdm> satabdi, can you come up with a better sketch for the home page content?
[18:28:05] <kaustavdm> just the content part
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[18:28:30] <debamitro> kaustavdm: but that's there only on mac
[18:28:32] <amani_glugcal> I will post the content
[18:28:40] <amani_glugcal> for discussion
[18:28:54] <amani_glugcal> on mail-list
[18:29:35] <amani_glugcal> we need 2 more admins for website
[18:30:01] <debamitro> amani_glugcal: what does an admin need to do?
[18:30:07] <kaustavdm> debamitro, https://github.com
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[18:30:35] <kaustavdm> amani_glugcal, satabdi, so shall I install a new mailman for the domain?
[18:30:41] <amani_glugcal> debamitro manage content, config and maybe some code
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[18:30:58] <kaustavdm> amani_glugcal, I am there for the code and config part, we need more people for the content
[18:30:59] <amani_glugcal> satabdi for admin
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[18:31:22] <amani_glugcal> anybody will be able to submit content
[18:31:30] <debamitro> amani_glugcal: SunuTheNinja had volunteered for the site earlier, I think he can become the admin
[18:31:36] <debamitro> SunuTheNinja: what say?
[18:31:38] <kaustavdm> amani_glugcal, "articles" only
[18:31:39] <amani_glugcal> in specific categories
[18:31:55] <kaustavdm> articles, wiki and forum, yes
[18:34:04] <SunuTheNinja> debamitro: what is the role of a admin exactly?
[18:34:38] <amani_glugcal> Kaustavdm might be more suitable for admin with phil background and drupal skills.
[18:34:51] <debamitro> [off-topic] it sometimes feels real odd to see a group of mostly men planning for an event for getting more women into foss -- are we missing something?
[18:35:22] <amani_glugcal> SunuTheNinja does not know drupal
[18:35:36] * SunuTheNinja nodes
[18:35:41] <SunuTheNinja> nods*
[18:35:51] <kaustavdm> debamitro: the women we are trying to bring in
[18:35:51] <debamitro> amani_glugcal: I thought we needed two admins
[18:36:16] <SunuTheNinja> debamitro: IMO we need physical promotion
[18:36:17] <kaustavdm> amani_glugcal, "phil" background?
[18:36:25] <satabdi> kaustavdm, why there's create an account link?
[18:36:31] <amani_glugcal> ok then me and Satabdi.
[18:36:33] <SunuTheNinja> philosophical
[18:36:37] <kaustavdm> satabdi, for people to signup
[18:36:50] <amani_glugcal> kaustavdm philosophy
[18:36:56] <satabdi> kaustavdm, why ?
[18:37:10] <kaustavdm> oh, at times i forget i did 2.5 years in JU as a philosophy student :P
[18:37:16] <chandankumar> hello all
[18:37:18] <satabdi> kaustavdm, I mean, why would they create login?
[18:37:21] <satabdi> hi chandankumar
[18:37:25] <chandankumar> sorry i was away.
[18:37:29] <debamitro> hello chandankumar
[18:37:31] <satabdi> chandankumar, no problem
[18:37:35] <kaustavdm> satabdi, to post in forums, post articles, contribute to wiki
[18:37:41] <satabdi> ok
[18:37:42] <kaustavdm> also to signup for web forms
[18:37:49] <SunuTheNinja> hi chandankumar
[18:37:54] <debamitro> kaustavdm: can't we use open-id?
[18:37:55] <kaustavdm> current setting of glugcal is to have admins approve user accounts
[18:38:13] <kaustavdm> debamitro, at present there is openid login, but the basic one that comes with drupal
[18:38:21] <kaustavdm> where you have to manually insert your openid url
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[18:38:29] <debamitro> kaustavdm: can we enhance it to support fb/twitter/google?
[18:38:35] <kaustavdm> i'm planning to write a module which will let you do it like stackoverflow does
[18:38:48] <kaustavdm> fb/twitter/google use oauth
[18:38:48] <amani_glugcal> no not twitter, fb
[18:38:56] <amani_glugcal> evil stuff
[18:38:57] <kaustavdm> that is an entirely different mode of authentication
[18:39:41] <SunuTheNinja> amani_glugcal: IMHO we have to be a bit more relaxing to allow more people to come in.
[18:39:57] <debamitro> amani_glugcal: whatever good or evil they are, they are used by most of people outside foss
[18:40:52] <amani_glugcal> debamitro but will it make their login any easier/simpler
[18:41:12] <debamitro> amani_glugcal: if we hold all our convictions so hard then this group will not get anyone from outside foss
[18:41:20] <debamitro> amani_glugcal: yes it does make things much simpler
[18:41:36] <kaustavdm> amani_glugcal, no the process is technically the same, what they are pointing out is that you have more FB and twitter users, who might be your target audience
[18:41:40] <debamitro> amani_glugcal: because ppl are logged into at least one of them all the time
[18:42:04] <amani_glugcal> ok we will cure them :)
[18:42:10] <satabdi> :)
[18:42:12] <satabdi> he he
[18:42:26] <satabdi> yep long term goal :D
[18:42:55] <kaustavdm> debamitro, that will be about bringing in too many authentication backends, which in turn increases complexity. Can we postpone this feature for now, so that we can launch the site in a while?
[18:43:10] <amani_glugcal> kaustavdm fine
[18:43:11] <debamitro> amani_glugcal: let's have a facebook twitter login button -- when an user clicks that we'll show a page explaining why these are evil and let them in -- what say? will you agree to this bit of compromise?
[18:43:13] <satabdi> um i have an idea - tell me if it's trash or not - can we have a minimalistic website for now
[18:43:36] <amani_glugcal> debamitro ok
[18:43:41] <satabdi> no login , no forum (since we have the mailing list) no wiki
[18:44:00] <debamitro> amani_glugcal: or we can even require user to log out of fb/twiiter through that page :-)
[18:44:02] <amani_glugcal> satabdi, we need those for event
[18:44:05] <kaustavdm> satabdi, then you don;t need glugcal's source code :-)
[18:44:08] <satabdi> just - about us, events, FOSS News, Opprtunities
[18:44:26] <satabdi> courses, projects
[18:44:28] <kaustavdm> because in that case you have to turn off a lot of features :D
[18:44:47] <satabdi> kaustavdm, but we might need them if this group really survives and becomes big
[18:44:54] <amani_glugcal> satabdi, we stick to present version for now
[18:45:01] <debamitro> kaustavdm: well I was planning that for now we put your site with existing backend, and you mentor somebody who writes the additional authentication apps
[18:45:20] <debamitro> kaustavdm: this way we get a new drupal expert apart from you
[18:45:25] <amani_glugcal> fblogin etc can be added as it becomes possible
[18:45:49] <debamitro> kaustavdm: growing new possibilities and skillsets is integral to bringing new ppl into foss
[18:46:06] <SunuTheNinja> kaustavdm: good time to pithch in the idea we were discussing.
[18:46:09] <satabdi> we need to conclude our discussion on website to move to the next 2 topics
[18:46:09] <debamitro> kaustavdm: plus we get more users from outside foss world
[18:46:14] <debamitro> rrright
[18:46:19] <amani_glugcal> whom to mentor?
[18:46:32] <kaustavdm> debamitro, there is already a drupal project for that. I meant, if we are using OAuth, along with open id, that opens up too many authentication backends, resulting in increased vulnerability for the site
[18:46:35] <amani_glugcal> next topic
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[18:46:45] <debamitro> amani_glugcal: if I had time I'd become the mentee
[18:46:48] <debamitro> next topic
[18:46:49] <kaustavdm> SunuTheNinja, that would take alteast a month
[18:47:08] <kaustavdm> debamitro, I can of course help
[18:47:09] <satabdi> SunuTheNinja, kaustavdm could you please tell us what idea quickly
[18:47:28] <SunuTheNinja> yeah we can build that while the existing thing is in place.
[18:47:32] <satabdi> then we move to next topic
[18:47:42] <SunuTheNinja> then replace it when we are done.
[18:47:46] <kaustavdm> well, it was writing a new website entirely from scratch in python, using something like flask or django, targeting free-software groups, using amani_glugcal's specifications
[18:48:08] <kaustavdm> SunuTheNinja, content migration will be a big issue in that case
[18:48:16] <satabdi> aah! initially that was the plan!! :)
[18:48:24] <debamitro> kaustavdm: I think he is inspired by hasgeek -- it is a great site and written in flask
[18:48:37] * SunuTheNinja nods
[18:48:47] <satabdi> okay - lets continue on this one off line on the channel later
[18:48:59] <satabdi> next topic - any one wants to share anything on the last hackathon
[18:49:00] <satabdi> ?
[18:49:02] <debamitro> kaustavdm: SunuTheNinja: but looking at timelines current glugcal is better idea
[18:49:38] <kaustavdm> debamitro: +1 but it is the time factor
[18:49:38] <kaustavdm> so our idea was to write an app alongside the present site. More people know python than PHP here, so we would get more contributors
[18:49:38] <kaustavdm> also my plan was to occassionally organize hackathons to boost codebase
[18:49:38] <kaustavdm> debamitro, that was my point
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[18:49:47] <SunuTheNinja> yep. but if we have only the pages satabdi mentioned content migration wont be that big of a problem
[18:50:09] <kaustavdm> SunuTheNinja, okay lets discuss on the list about this
[18:50:32] <kaustavdm> satabdi, can we take a final call on what to use for the new website for wfs-india?
[18:50:59] <kaustavdm> I can install glugcal's code and turn off features temporarily
[18:51:21] <amani_glugcal> kaustavdm why turn off features
[18:51:35] <satabdi> kaustavdm, we need a website before the event and start publicising it and glugcal website is the best thing we have now
[18:51:58] <kaustavdm> amani_glugcal, satabdi said she doesn't want to use forums, wiki etc for now
[18:52:17] <amani_glugcal> ok turn off forums and wiki
[18:52:28] <satabdi> lets install it - but at the same time if SunuTheNinja wants to take up the project and can churn out a fabulous website like hasgeek - i am all out to move to that when that's ready
[18:52:31] <SunuTheNinja> and probably user sign up too
[18:52:46] <satabdi> kaustavdm, I said - we might not need - but i am not sure
[18:53:01] <satabdi> if you guys think we need wiki, orum etc, lets please have it
[18:53:02] <kaustavdm> satabdi, sorry missed that point :-)
[18:53:15] <kaustavdm> satabdi, question is, will there be enough contributors?
[18:53:22] <amani_glugcal> kaustavdm, turn off nothing
[18:53:30] <amani_glugcal> we will see :)
[18:53:40] <satabdi> yeah - that was what I was thinking - initially we might not
[18:54:08] <satabdi> kaustavdm, lets use glugcal as is
[18:54:16] <debamitro> satabdi: +1
[18:54:20] <satabdi> if everyone is okay with it
[18:54:21] <kaustavdm> okay. that is final then? everyone?
[18:54:24] <debamitro> next topic
[18:54:25] <debamitro> final
[18:54:38] * satabdi pokes SunuTheNinja
[18:54:50] <SunuTheNinja> Yeah?
[18:55:04] <SunuTheNinja> ok.
[18:55:06] <kaustavdm> SunuTheNinja, look up
[18:55:13] <kaustavdm> okay then, next topic
[18:55:24] <kaustavdm> satabdi, what is the next topic?
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[18:55:42] <satabdi> does any one have anything to share about the last event we had?
[18:55:42] <amani_glugcal> event topics etc
[18:55:50] <satabdi> so that we can improve ourselves next time
[18:56:09] <satabdi> and we need to discuss about the 15 june event
[18:56:32] <satabdi> there's a possibility chandankumar might not be available on that day
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[18:56:47] <SunuTheNinja> then what are the possible events?
[18:56:57] <kaustavdm> satabdi, I was wondering about the possibility of offline events
[18:57:01] <kaustavdm> is that possible?
[18:57:21] <SunuTheNinja> offlines events are a *big* plus IMO
[18:57:24] <amani_glugcal> kaustavdm ....no
[18:57:29] * satabdi wants to do offline events - because that's where one gets more ROI
[18:57:50] <amani_glugcal> how?
[18:57:59] <satabdi> but given our scattered volunteer base - that's pretty difficult
[18:58:17] <kaustavdm> satabdi, that is the reason i asked whether it is possible
[18:58:30] <debamitro> let's refresh what events we planned apart from the edit-a-thon
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[18:58:46] <amani_glugcal> poster competition
[18:58:52] <satabdi> I have a suggestion - can we focus on 15 June event till 15 June - after that lets start planning for an offline event - in any of the cities
[18:59:22] <SunuTheNinja> We need prizes for the competition
[18:59:30] * chandankumar will be staying in pune for next 6 months from 10th june, 2013.
[18:59:33] <SunuTheNinja> Otherwise noone will care to participate
[18:59:39] <amani_glugcal> poster on women's issues using free s/w only
[18:59:53] <amani_glugcal> prizes : pendrives with some distro
[19:00:03] <amani_glugcal> and books
[19:00:15] <satabdi> books are good!
[19:00:16] <satabdi> :)
[19:00:39] <satabdi> lets first decide the events
[19:00:40] <debamitro> amani_glugcal: has any poster competition worked online before? like we know of edit-a-thons which worked
[19:00:43] <kaustavdm> books would be cheaper as well, i guess
[19:00:52] <debamitro> amani_glugcal: I am asking -- not doubting
[19:00:53] <amani_glugcal> or get a partner organization to send books
[19:01:12] <amani_glugcal> debamitro yes they work
[19:01:35] <amani_glugcal> fsf organized a few
[19:01:49] <kaustavdm> amani_glugcal, how will you accept submissions? on the website?
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[19:02:01] <amani_glugcal> kaustavdm yes
[19:02:05] <kaustavdm> okay
[19:02:36] <SunuTheNinja> so we probably need the wiki for that?
[19:02:51] <kaustavdm> SunuTheNinja, wiki for what? submissions?
[19:02:52] <amani_glugcal> kaustavdm books may be costlier
[19:03:13] <SunuTheNinja> yes? or it can't be publicly shown?
[19:03:22] <amani_glugcal> SunuTheNinja submission form
[19:03:36] <kaustavdm> amani_glugcal, do we show all submissions publicly?
[19:03:57] <amani_glugcal> at the end
[19:04:15] <amani_glugcal> if they desire
[19:04:18] <satabdi> amani_glugcal, will you please coordinate the poster competition then ?
[19:04:29] <amani_glugcal> satabdi, ok
[19:04:32] <SunuTheNinja> ok. I was talking about showing the posters
[19:04:40] <satabdi> great
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[19:04:52] <debamitro> two events settled
[19:05:07] <amani_glugcal> Quiz?
[19:05:31] <SunuTheNinja> realtime?
[19:05:37] <satabdi> we need to have FAQ, rules, information on prizes about the poster competition
[19:05:38] <amani_glugcal> yes
[19:06:37] <amani_glugcal> I will write them... discuss ... finalize
[19:06:46] <satabdi> amani_glugcal, kaustavdm how long will it take us to make these pages ready and a system ready where the applicants can submit their posters?
[19:07:02] <amani_glugcal> 6th June
[19:07:03] <kaustavdm> satabdi, about 2 days
[19:07:17] <kaustavdm> and then you will have to put in the content
[19:07:23] <satabdi> okay
[19:08:20] <satabdi> if we decide that we will announce the winner on 15th June then we should give at least 2 weeks to submit posters
[19:08:49] <satabdi> so may be we can start letting people submit their posters on 1st June?
[19:09:05] <satabdi> provided we make the content ready?
[19:09:11] <amani_glugcal> satabdi ok
[19:09:20] <kaustavdm> ok
[19:09:33] <satabdi> great
[19:09:35] <kaustavdm> satabdi, for which we will need to let people register, I guess?
[19:09:42] <satabdi> yes
[19:09:52] <satabdi> :) there we need the login
[19:09:53] <kaustavdm> amani_glugcal, or will it be a form which anonymous users can post to?
[19:09:59] <debamitro> which means we need the content for the poster competition in 2-3 days
[19:10:16] <SunuTheNinja> kaustavdm: we need their contact info too
[19:10:27] <SunuTheNinja> in case they win ;)
[19:10:45] <kaustavdm> :P
[19:10:47] <SunuTheNinja> So annonymous submission may not work
[19:11:38] <satabdi> okay
[19:11:52] <SunuTheNinja> So, quiz?
[19:11:56] <amani_glugcal> kaustavdm if someone wants to remain anonymous, then they can write anything in the fields
[19:12:01] <amani_glugcal> quiz
[19:12:07] <amani_glugcal> method
[19:12:16] <amani_glugcal> participant logs in
[19:12:33] <amani_glugcal> answers MCQ in real time
[19:12:38] <amani_glugcal> submits
[19:12:39] <satabdi> who will conduct the quiz, what will be the topic?
[19:12:44] <amani_glugcal> We
[19:12:58] <SunuTheNinja> we need a module for that
[19:13:14] <SunuTheNinja> kaustavdm: is there anything ready made?
[19:13:17] <amani_glugcal> We will have a MCQ pool
[19:13:25] <kaustavdm> amani_glugcal, let me see, I think by default forms are either for logged in users or for anonymous users in Drupal, let me see if that can be changed
[19:13:44] <kaustavdm> for mcq? I think we can use the same webforms module for this
[19:13:49] <kaustavdm> let me see
[19:14:14] <SunuTheNinja> kaustavdm is awesome :)
[19:14:31] <kaustavdm> SunuTheNinja, Drupal is
[19:14:44] <amani_glugcal> random number determines selection of questions
[19:14:45] <SunuTheNinja> you too ;)
[19:15:04] <debamitro> I suggest let's focus on two events and do them really well
[19:15:08] <kaustavdm> amani_glugcal, oh that, that would need something else
[19:15:18] <debamitro> we have very few organisers and not much time
[19:15:28] <amani_glugcal> ALL of you start preparing high quality questions in
[19:15:43] <kaustavdm> I thought it would be same questions for all users, and it would like a single form
[19:16:34] <amani_glugcal> kaustavdm ok then we have a huge set of questions
[19:16:59] <kaustavdm> http://drupal.org looks like there is something for this :-)
[19:16:59] <debamitro> how can a quiz encourage newbies in foss? they might get put off by facing a host of questions which might seem greek
[19:17:22] <satabdi> hm that's a good point
[19:17:29] <amani_glugcal> kaustavdm great
[19:17:38] <SunuTheNinja> hmm I think it's debamitro++ here
[19:17:47] <debamitro> this is something ubuntu-women did as a contest -- http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org now that is something newbies can particiapt and enjoy as well
[19:17:59] <amani_glugcal> debamitro questions will make them look at things
[19:18:26] <amani_glugcal> the basic goal is to increase their interest
[19:18:26] <satabdi> we need to conclude and decide the next day of the meeting
[19:18:29] <amani_glugcal> level
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[19:19:22] <debamitro> amani_glugcal: I am doubtful
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[19:20:41] <amani_glugcal> debamitro kids take lot of interest in quiz
[19:20:50] <amani_glugcal> competitions
[19:21:05] <amani_glugcal> and people can use the web
[19:21:54] <kaustavdm> okay, i think quiz will need some work, but should be ready in a day
[19:21:59] <debamitro> amani_glugcal: see actually I can relate to newbies because I am actually a newbie myself!
[19:22:10] <debamitro> kaustavdm: yes good to be ready with the infrastructure
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[19:22:52] <SunuTheNinja> Unless there is sufficient prize, I won't be interested in a quiz
[19:23:49] <amani_glugcal> or do we make it into an essay competition
[19:23:57] <debamitro> amani_glugcal: actually I have quite a lot of experience in organising city-wide open quizzes for schools and colleges, from that I can safely tell you newbies won't come, only regular quizzers and fossers will
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[19:24:48] <amani_glugcal> debamitro then essay competition?
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[19:25:05] <debamitro> amani_glugcal: that sounds much better
[19:25:20] <amani_glugcal> for newbies
[19:25:22] <SunuTheNinja> And we need a feedback form too.
[19:25:28] <amani_glugcal> or anybody
[19:25:50] <amani_glugcal> we will discuss the topic for that on mail list
[19:26:19] <satabdi> off topic - does 3rd may sound good to everyone for our next meeting - we meet at 9:30pm?
[19:26:28] <debamitro> essay competition is quite nice
[19:26:41] <kaustavdm> amani_glugcal +1
[19:26:45] <kaustavdm> satabdi +1
[19:26:52] <amani_glugcal> satabdi +1
[19:26:53] <debamitro> even a business idea competition might be good
[19:27:26] <debamitro> design a business idea based on open source that benefits women
[19:28:07] <satabdi> just a thought - what is better to promote something - events or competitions?
[19:28:12] <debamitro> +1 for next meeting on 3rd May
[19:28:36] <amani_glugcal> satabdi both
[19:28:51] <SunuTheNinja> debamitro: or idea for apps?
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[19:30:10] <debamitro> SunuTheNinja: +2
[19:30:31] <kaustavdm> satabdi, is the git workshop on the list?
[19:30:46] <satabdi> yes
[19:30:50] <satabdi> lets include it
[19:31:32] <satabdi> so events list as it stands now - 1. poster competition 2. essay / quiz competition 3. git workshop
[19:31:41] <debamitro> design an app/website based on open source technologies that will benefit women, and/or ensure a more gender-equitable India
[19:31:55] <satabdi> if sucheta becomes free and active within this week - then we will have edit-a-thon
[19:32:14] <kaustavdm> debamitro, the current website will be an example of that, so you can urge users with some familiarity with drupal to extend the current source
[19:32:18] <satabdi> chandankumar, is there any way you can tell us if you will be free on 15th June eve?
[19:32:42] <debamitro> kaustavdm: yes, good idea
[19:32:48] <satabdi> if you are not there, then we do not have anyone to conduct the localization event unless someone else volunteers to
[19:34:43] <SunuTheNinja> git workshop will be interesteing
[19:35:10] <satabdi> SunuTheNinja, want to conduct it with me? :)
[19:35:31] <kaustavdm> satabdi, count me in, if too many gits won't spoil the git
[19:35:32] <chandankumar> satabdi, i am not sure about my presence.
[19:35:40] <debamitro> kaustavdm: good pj
[19:35:40] <satabdi> kaustavdm, not at all :)
[19:35:41] <amani_glugcal> where is wowsig?
[19:36:07] <kaustavdm> satabdi, then we should discuss on the list more about this
[19:36:08] <satabdi> haven't heard from her since a long time
[19:36:12] <satabdi> yes
[19:36:14] <SunuTheNinja> satabdi: I'll probably like to watch and see.
[19:36:27] <satabdi> SunuTheNinja, no problem
[19:36:29] <SunuTheNinja> I haven't attended an irc workshop on git before
[19:36:45] <satabdi> neither have I
[19:36:56] <SunuTheNinja> hehe :D
[19:37:26] <debamitro> for git workshop we need to ensure participants have linux/mac
[19:37:29] <kaustavdm> satabdi, what would be the time frame? I think we should give people some prelim material about what they need to know to attend the workshop
[19:37:30] <amani_glugcal> SunuTheNinja basically you need to send the irc commands to git and vice versa
[19:37:39] <kaustavdm> debamitro, git works on windoze too
[19:37:42] <debamitro> windows will be catastrophic
[19:37:56] <debamitro> I went to railsgirls with a windows laptop
[19:38:13] <chandankumar> SunuTheNinja, satabdi http://www.codeschool.com
[19:38:16] <satabdi> kaustavdm, in the last event i realized 1 hour is too short
[19:38:19] <SunuTheNinja> debamitro: Not really.
[19:38:26] <debamitro> windows has everything but at the end of the day I could hardly set up rails
[19:38:30] <chandankumar> SunuTheNinja, satabdi git tutorials .
[19:38:48] <SunuTheNinja> chandankumar: yep, that's nice
[19:38:50] <kaustavdm> chandankumar, thanks. Progit is always by first point of reference about git
[19:39:09] <satabdi> chandankumar, thanks I know about quite a few of them - have them listed in my blog - if you know of anything else- then please share
[19:39:36] <SunuTheNinja> debamitro: satabdi have you seen openhatch's missions?
[19:39:47] <amani_glugcal> also say something on svn vs git vs mhg
[19:39:52] <amani_glugcal> hg
[19:39:56] <SunuTheNinja> I would have sent you a link but my connection is sucky right now
[19:40:01] <chandankumar> kaustavdm, i have learnt from http://www.shakthimaan.com
[19:40:11] <chandankumar> during dgplug summer training.
[19:40:29] <kaustavdm> chandankumar, that is interesting
[19:40:30] <chandankumar> *learnt git
[19:40:53] <kaustavdm> amani_glugcal, one of my points would have been a vcs vs dvcs contrast
[19:41:02] <chandankumar> kaustavdm, you can get lots of useful resource from here, http://www.shakthimaan.com
[19:41:11] <satabdi> kaustavdm, we need to have small FAQ/HELPs for people so that we spend less time on setting up things - trygit is a very good starting point but i wish to go a bit further
[19:41:19] <kaustavdm> chandankumar, shaktimaan is always resourceful ;)
[19:41:29] <SunuTheNinja> amani_glugcal: kaustavdm wouldn't that be a bit overwhelming?
[19:41:48] <kaustavdm> SunuTheNinja, it is always how you explain things to a newcomer
[19:41:53] <amani_glugcal> shall I ask shaktimaan to help
[19:41:58] <kaustavdm> lol
[19:42:09] <SunuTheNinja> satabdi: debamitro http://openhatch.org
[19:42:28] <SunuTheNinja> they have a mission to set up git on windows and one for git itself.
[19:42:31] <debamitro> SunuTheNinja: will have a look
[19:42:40] <chandankumar> SunuTheNinja, that one is also better.
[19:42:42] <satabdi> anyway, I need to leave now - will share the minutes tomorrow
[19:42:59] <kaustavdm> SunuTheNinja, nice
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[19:43:33] <SunuTheNinja> Ok. I'll upload the logs too.
[19:43:41] <kaustavdm> alright
[19:43:41] <amani_glugcal> good
[19:43:44] <SunuTheNinja> My cronjob has stopped somehow :-|
[19:44:11] <amani_glugcal> bye .... I have the logs
[19:44:20] <kaustavdm> bye all
[19:44:46] <debamitro> bye
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[21:39:18] <chandankumar> SunuTheNinja, have you got selected?
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