#wfs-india | Logs for 2013-05-22
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[18:06:05] <chandankumar> Hello All!
[18:06:36] <debamitro> hello chandankumar
[18:06:44] <debamitro> though I am not 'All'
[18:07:11] <kaustavdm> hi chandankumar
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[18:08:43] <SunuThePirate> Aloha! chandankumar
[18:09:18] <kaustavdm> debamitro, hi :d
[18:10:19] <debamitro> hi kaustavdm
[18:10:27] <chandankumar> SunuThePirate, Aloha!
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[18:12:01] <debamitro> since everything is getting logged let's chat here only on topics related to #wfs-india -- for general chat let's open a new channel, maybe called "pirates and wannabe pirates"
[18:13:49] <kaustavdm> okay, about the website of wfs-india, i had suggested that you can use the present source code of glugcal's new site to speed up things for wfs-india
[18:14:08] <kaustavdm> i'll need to brush up the code a bit, and throw in a theme there
[18:15:43] <debamitro> yes I read that -- I just want to confirm that we want all the stuff glugcal has ... I am thinking we will sooner or later, but let the group decide
[18:16:15] <kaustavdm> i'll be done in a couple of days, so if you want, i can fork it and create a site for wfs-india. Others can come up with a theme design later on
[18:16:32] <kaustavdm> debamitro, sure
[18:16:41] <satabdi> kaustavdm, are you referring to this site - http://ilug-cal.info
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[18:18:35] <kaustavdm> no
[18:18:44] <kaustavdm> glugcal is getting a new site
[18:19:13] <kaustavdm> the current code is at https://github.com
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[18:20:37] <kaustavdm> i'm working on it, but didn't get enough time in the last couple of weeks. I'll try to wrap it up with a stock theme within two days
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[18:22:03] <satabdi> kaustavdm, can there be any live preview?
[18:22:20] <satabdi> I would like to quickly check it out in stead of installing it
[18:22:29] <kaustavdm> satabdi, http://glugcal.kaustavdm.webfactional.com I'll change the theme shortly
[18:22:40] <kaustavdm> you won't get much unless you enter the admin panel
[18:22:46] <kaustavdm> most of the stuff is in there
[18:23:16] <kaustavdm> but overall, it implements the specifications mentioned here: https://github.com
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[18:24:52] <kaustavdm> the difference between what Mani has suggested for wfs-india is that it doesn't have the collaborative editor
[18:25:57] <SunuThePirate> etherpad lite is good enough for a collaborative editor.
[18:26:16] <kaustavdm> SunuThePirate, that is what I had suggested on the glugcal mailing list
[18:26:27] <kaustavdm> which is why it is not a part of the core website specs
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[18:28:00] <kaustavdm> satabdi, can you guys come up with a logo for wfs-india?
[18:28:29] <SunuThePirate> kaustavdm: Got the login working again \o/
[18:28:30] <kaustavdm> oh and one important thing, the glugcal site is in Drupal 7, so you would need a decent web host to host that
[18:28:41] <kaustavdm> SunuThePirate, great (wrong window)
[18:28:42] <SunuThePirate> whoops. wrong window. sorry.
[18:30:46] <satabdi> the logo is not decided yet
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[18:31:44] <satabdi> we have to - and I see 2 ways - either we design it ourselves or we hold a competition for the logo
[18:32:14] <kaustavdm> satabdi, which one is faster?
[18:32:14] <satabdi> but before anything we need to decide the name and buy our hosting
[18:32:20] <debamitro> competition -- good idea
[18:32:46] <kaustavdm> wfsindia.org is available
[18:32:58] <satabdi> kaustavdm, have to see after floating the idea in the group - let me shoot a mail regarding this
[18:32:59] <SunuThePirate> satabdi: I think I told you already - wfs-india.in is taken
[18:33:04] <satabdi> is it?
[18:33:09] <kaustavdm> satabdi, yes
[18:33:14] <kaustavdm> parked by someone
[18:33:19] <kaustavdm> it might cost you a good deal to get it
[18:33:26] <satabdi> so is wfsindia.in
[18:33:27] <satabdi> :(
[18:33:39] <kaustavdm> so going for .org without the hyphen seems good to me
[18:33:49] <SunuThePirate> wfsindia.org seems good enough.
[18:33:56] <kaustavdm> satabdi, sadly wfsindia.in is taken
[18:35:10] <satabdi> yep
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[18:35:24] <kaustavdm> wfsi.in is available
[18:35:40] <satabdi> is godaddy good?
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[18:35:45] <kaustavdm> to host?
[18:35:52] <kaustavdm> I won't suggest
[18:35:52] <satabdi> or is there any cheaper vendor
[18:35:53] <SunuThePirate> bigrock is cheaper.
[18:35:54] <satabdi> yes
[18:36:04] <satabdi> what do you suggest?
[18:36:19] <SunuThePirate> for domain bigrock atleast
[18:36:19] <debamitro> bigrock is giving at Rs 299 per year
[18:36:21] <kaustavdm> SunuThePirate, if you are hosting a Drupal7 site, many shared hosts impose a good deal of restrictions. You would find your account suspended anytime
[18:36:40] <kaustavdm> oh are we talking about the domain registrar?
[18:36:43] <SunuThePirate> kaustavdm: for domain name, not for hosting
[18:36:53] <debamitro> kaustavdm: we can get a dedicated server and tie it to the domain name later on, right?
[18:36:57] <kaustavdm> Yes, first year is usually cheap, second year onwards it is around 800 + service tax
[18:37:12] <SunuThePirate> nope, bigrock is cheaper.
[18:37:51] <kaustavdm> SunuThePirate, if you book for first time, you get lower rates, but you don't get concessions on renewals
[18:38:04] <SunuThePirate> @599/- renewal at bigrock
[18:38:10] <SunuThePirate> for .org that is
[18:38:18] <kaustavdm> well then it *is* cheap
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[18:38:56] <debamitro> wfs-india.org is avaibale at bigrock, 5 years at 549/year 1 year at 299/year
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[18:39:21] <SunuThePirate> debamitro: buy for 1 yr ;)
[18:39:50] <kaustavdm> SunuThePirate, debamitro, check with them about the renewal prices
[18:40:24] <SunuThePirate> renewal 5 years @ 549.00/per yr
[18:40:55] <SunuThePirate> so first buy for 1 yr, then renew for 5 years = Max. savings
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[18:43:42] <SunuThePirate> kaustavdm: http://www.bigrock.in
[18:45:48] <kaustavdm> SunuThePirate, thanks. They do look cheap
[18:46:11] <kaustavdm> Also for hosting, you can go for the Advanced Plan in their CMS section
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[18:46:26] <kaustavdm> oh, it's all the same actually
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[18:47:51] <SunuThePirate> I would so much love if you we can have a vps :(
[18:49:39] <kaustavdm> that would be nice, but i'm not aware of the funds scenario
[18:49:58] <kaustavdm> a vps or a cloud host would set you off by atleast INR 2K/month
[18:49:59] <debamitro> wfs-india.org has been booked -- yo ho ho!
[18:50:30] <kaustavdm> whoa! that was fast
[18:50:48] <kaustavdm> debamitro: +1001
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[18:53:06] <satabdi> so guys/pros - please suggest hosting now
[18:53:26] <SunuThePirate> kaustavdm: linode costs like ~20 USD and they are the best IMO
[18:53:37] <SunuThePirate> but there should be cheaper options too.
[18:53:39] <satabdi> one we have that we can start building the pages for the event quickly
[18:53:43] <SunuThePirate> for vps that is
[18:54:07] <SunuThePirate> the advantage of vps is we have toatl freedom
[18:54:16] <debamitro> question is, what do I redirect the domain name to until the hosting is ready -- I think either the github page sunu created, or to wfs-india.dreamwidth.org
[18:54:40] <kaustavdm> debamitro, best is to leave it parked until you get a hosting
[18:54:59] <kaustavdm> SunuThePirate, +1 if there is enough fund
[18:55:05] <satabdi> kaustavdm, any particular reason?
[18:55:35] <kaustavdm> satabdi, for linode? Yes they are probably the best known VPS providers
[18:55:48] <kaustavdm> pretty developer friendly, with a good deal of documentation
[18:56:09] <kaustavdm> also you can roll a server within a few minutes
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[18:57:27] <debamitro> fund is absent as of now, and it might take some time to get that
[18:57:48] <debamitro> which is why I was thinking let's put some static content somewhere and point the domain to that
[19:00:13] <debamitro> btw pirates, linode charges $20 per month -- means 12000 rupees per year
[19:00:22] <debamitro> its a lot of money
[19:00:28] <kaustavdm> debamitro, you added one zero extra
[19:00:44] <kaustavdm> sorry
[19:00:47] <kaustavdm> per year, oops
[19:00:52] <satabdi> kaustavdm, no. I asked you if you have any particular reason for keeping it parked until we get a hosting
[19:01:15] <kaustavdm> satabdi, if you would get hosting soon enough, there is no use changing the nameservers too often
[19:01:48] <kaustavdm> debamitro, SunuThePirate, the cost is the primary reason I had suggested a shared host
[19:02:04] <satabdi> who can give us one?!
[19:03:51] <kaustavdm> satabdi, can you ask Mani and see if it is possible to temporarily host wfs-india.org on glugcal's servers till you have enough funds to have your own server
[19:03:52] <kaustavdm> ?
[19:04:20] <satabdi> yep
[19:04:59] * satabdi is terribly sleepy now
[19:05:24] <satabdi> anyway, talk to you guys later
[19:05:28] <satabdi> bye
[19:05:46] <kaustavdm> cya, satabdi
[19:06:11] <satabdi> cya kaustavdm
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[21:20:56] <SunuThePirate> Hmm .. we should probably add the mailing list address to the topic.
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[21:32:29] <SunuThePirate> ashutosh1461: Join the mailing list at https://groups.google.com!forum/wfs-india too. :-)
[21:33:22] <SunuThePirate> We are planning for an event on 15th June. May be you can help out too.
[21:33:32] <SunuThePirate> The details are in the mailing list.
[21:34:16] <ashutosh1461> yes, sure maybe i can forward a mail to my institute's mailing list.
[21:38:18] <SunuThePirate> ashutosh1461: That's probably supercool :-)
[21:38:28] <SunuThePirate> We need more people in the group.
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