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[18:02:52] <kaustavdm> hi people, how was the hackathon yesterday?
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[18:37:57] <SunuThePirate> Hi satabdi debamitr_ :-)
[18:38:10] <debamitr_> hello SunuThePirate
[18:38:15] <satabdi> hi SunuThePirate
[18:38:37] <satabdi> is floggerthelogger the bot?
[18:38:48] <SunuThePirate> yep :-)
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[18:38:52] <satabdi> great
[18:38:54] <SunuThePirate> floggerthelogger: Hi
[18:39:01] <satabdi> :)
[18:39:05] <debamitr_> ha ha ha
[18:39:08] <satabdi> you are supercool dude
[18:39:18] <SunuThePirate> hehe :-P
[18:39:23] <SunuThePirate> thanks :-)
[18:39:43] <SunuThePirate> You guys are awesome too :-)
[18:39:46] <debamitr_> SunuThePirate: this is awesome
[18:39:51] <satabdi> he he thank you
[18:40:16] <SunuThePirate> The only problem is I sometimes have to upload the logs manually.
[18:40:40] <SunuThePirate> the cronjob I set up stops unexpectedly sometimes :-|
[18:40:55] <debamitr_> hey SunuThePirate how did you do this
[18:41:03] <debamitr_> I am a newbie to all these things you know
[18:41:33] <SunuThePirate> I just used a pre existing irc bot and tweaked it for our needs.
[18:41:40] <SunuThePirate> Let me dig up the url.
[18:42:06] <debamitr_> SunuThePirate: maybe you can take the next session 'create a bot online!'
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[18:43:23] <SunuThePirate> debamitr_: Haha :P. That won't be much of a success really. You need a server to run it and most people don't have one.
[18:43:37] <debamitr_> SunuThePirate: hmm
[18:43:42] <SunuThePirate> You can run it locally too. But that won't be as good.
[18:44:42] <debamitr_> anyway I was wondering why we are not yet getting too many women to participate in the group or irc
[18:45:33] <SunuThePirate> May be we should also do some physical events.
[18:45:49] <SunuThePirate> Teach people what IRC is.
[18:46:00] <SunuThePirate> What FOSS is.
[18:46:10] <debamitr_> yes, we will
[18:46:33] <satabdi> SunuThePirate, why would people be interested to learn what FOSS is and what IRC is?
[18:47:01] * satabdi has been asking this question quite frequently off late she think!! :p
[18:48:24] <SunuThePirate> I make peole interested in IRC by telling them it's the way hackers talk to each other and everyone wants to be a hacker ;)
[18:48:39] <SunuThePirate> THat's not a valid way for us I know
[18:49:10] <debamitr_> SunuThePirate: are people getting interested that way -- then it is a valid way
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[18:50:07] <SunuThePirate> debamitr_: They definitely get interested. At least here in my college this works.
[18:50:52] <SunuThePirate> No body wants to learn programming, but everybody wants to be a hacker.
[18:51:34] <SunuThePirate> But I am afraid the interest is not genuine, hence it won't last long.
[18:51:45] <debamitr_> my idea about why people (and women in particular) are not joining foss was that it is projected as something super-nerdy, and also because discussion spaces are not friendly or inclusive enough in foss circles
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[18:52:39] <debamitr_> but I may well be wrong, that's why I want to hear from people -- because what I feel is based on my personal experience
[18:53:49] <SunuThePirate> At least in tech colleges people are interested, provided you can provide quality resources.
[18:54:03] <kaustavdm> debamitr_, what you think is quite right, but there are pretty interfaces to nerdy stuff
[18:54:15] <debamitr_> I wrote a keymapping software for linux using xlib and gtk+ in college days for a professor -- but I didn't have the knowledge of free software and version control, so what I could have turned into an open source project died soon
[18:54:27] <kaustavdm> e.g., if you use pidgin, instead of erc to talk in irc
[18:55:22] <debamitr_> kaustavdm: pretty interfaces are all fine, but I think it is time to shed the nerdy label
[18:55:24] <SunuThePirate> Since we are talking about pretty interfaces, GNOME3 has a pretty nice interface.
[18:55:45] <debamitr_> kaustavdm: because FOSS is actually all around us even if we don't program or code
[18:56:00] <kaustavdm> debamitr_, +1, which is why i think we need more designers and art enthusiasts among us
[18:56:10] <SunuThePirate> +1
[18:56:25] <debamitr_> SunuThePirate: now you have quality resources, back in 2004 they were scanty
[18:57:17] <kaustavdm> i personally feel a user should be as much knowledgeable of the computer she uses as possible
[18:57:40] <SunuThePirate> debamitr_: By quality resources I mean a good teacher, good wifi, good projector and planned and interesting lecture.
[18:57:48] <kaustavdm> e.g. even if you are a hardcore gui user, knowing some command line tricks will save you huge pain at times, specially when the gui crashes
[18:58:07] <kaustavdm> debamitr_, not to mention all those resources running FOSS
[18:58:11] <kaustavdm> :D
[18:58:20] <SunuThePirate> kaustavdm: The problem is most normal people think linux is too geeky
[18:58:33] <SunuThePirate> And windows doesn't have a CLI
[18:58:40] <kaustavdm> doesn't?
[18:58:51] <debamitr_> kaustavdm: +1
[18:58:55] <SunuThePirate> It does?
[18:58:59] <kaustavdm> cmd.exe
[18:59:05] <kaustavdm> and also there are several utilities
[18:59:14] <kaustavdm> you don't a powerful sh, bash or zsh
[18:59:19] <SunuThePirate> Well, you can't run that if your gui crashes
[18:59:23] <kaustavdm> but they are useful enough for bulk manipulations
[18:59:25] <debamitr_> well, now so much is possible in your browser it doesn;t matter if you;'re running windows
[18:59:34] <kaustavdm> yes that is true SunuThePirate
[18:59:45] <SunuThePirate> So I don't consider it as a pure CLI
[18:59:54] <kaustavdm> not windows is not
[19:00:05] <kaustavdm> windows has gui pretty much built into the OS
[19:00:25] <SunuThePirate> 8 minutes of battery reamining . I may have to quit soon.
[19:01:16] <debamitr_> kaustavdm, SunuThePirate: actually do you know that programmers inside microsoft widely use gvim
[19:01:24] <kaustavdm> for those who are scared of moving to gnu/linux from the comfort of windows, KDE is the best possible migration path
[19:01:45] <debamitr_> also, visual studio has emacs bindings
[19:01:56] <kaustavdm> debamitr_, no, i thought they all used visual studio or eclipse
[19:02:08] <SunuThePirate> Well, I am using linux for ~2 years and I think I am still scared of KDE :P
[19:02:32] * SunuThePirate is going down any minute
[19:02:35] <kaustavdm> SunuThePirate, the thing we have to understand is that there no "one bill fits all" solution
[19:02:40] <debamitr_> kaustavdm: ha ha, where do you think microsoft employees come from? they are ppl like u and me
[19:02:41] <kaustavdm> Pirate down
[19:02:52] <debamitr_> the company is evil, but don't hate the work
[19:03:13] <kaustavdm> debamitr_, i don't confuse free software movement with anti-microsoft sentiments
[19:03:23] <debamitr_> kaustavdm: good, I used to
[19:03:34] <debamitr_> kaustavdm: anyway, back to the point
[19:03:45] <debamitr_> since we are two people talking on the same lines
[19:04:09] <debamitr_> and we have some tasks ahead -- planning the events of 15th june, and creating a website for the group
[19:04:11] <kaustavdm> debamitr_, question is, rail lines or tram lines?
[19:04:25] <kaustavdm> umm
[19:04:28] <kaustavdm> can i help?
[19:04:32] <kaustavdm> but only strategically
[19:04:34] <debamitr_> kaustavdm: what do you think we can do
[19:04:40] <debamitr_> in the site
[19:04:43] <debamitr_> or the event
[19:05:06] <kaustavdm> i am already developing the website for iglug-cal, but haven't been able to finish it yet for professional commitments, so i don't think i can directly work here, but i might be able to give you good directions
[19:05:08] <debamitr_> that the issues we agreed upon are taken care -- I mean how can we remove the nerdy label?
[19:05:21] <kaustavdm> create a clean website, that is easily accessible
[19:05:28] <kaustavdm> where you get all information you want
[19:05:34] <debamitr_> kaustavdm: oh good I caught the developer of ilug-cal
[19:05:36] <kaustavdm> and have a team to write nerdy stuff in simple languages
[19:05:41] <kaustavdm> :D
[19:05:44] <debamitr_> kaustavdm: rright -- what info should we keep?
[19:05:53] <kaustavdm> is this a site for wfs-india?
[19:05:59] <debamitr_> yes
[19:06:05] <kaustavdm> okay
[19:06:08] <kaustavdm> keep a mission statement
[19:06:28] <kaustavdm> and most importantly, use the homepage to let people, specially women, know why they will benefit from free software
[19:06:36] <debamitr_> have you seen the courses section of linuxchix? it is in a mailing list -- but the courses are really good
[19:06:42] <kaustavdm> avoid ambiguous philosophical discussions straight away
[19:06:49] <debamitr_> kaustavdm: +1
[19:06:57] <kaustavdm> have a look at drupal.org
[19:07:08] <kaustavdm> they way they highlight drupal's feature without being too nerdy
[19:07:16] <kaustavdm> i am talking about the content here, not the design
[19:07:24] <debamitr_> kaustavdm: ok
[19:08:21] <debamitr_> kaustavdm: one small q -- I saw the specs of glug-cal website -- are all the features used?
[19:08:24] <kaustavdm> so the homepage can have some interesting sections like: Who is it for? Who are we?
[19:08:27] <kaustavdm> almost all
[19:08:42] <kaustavdm> the dev server is at http://glugcal.kaustavdm.webfactional.com
[19:08:46] <kaustavdm> the theme part is pending
[19:08:50] <kaustavdm> rest everything is in place
[19:09:11] <kaustavdm> dont signup there :P
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[19:09:40] <kaustavdm> for wfs-india, if you don't have a good enough hosting, go for wordpress
[19:09:45] <kaustavdm> and create a static front page
[19:11:21] <debamitr_> kaustavdm: ya recently I tried creating a wordpress theme for someone and felt it was better than drupal
[19:11:36] <kaustavdm> debamitr_, it depends on the use case
[19:11:37] <debamitr_> kaustavdm: but I have heard drupal is more powerful
[19:11:59] <kaustavdm> yes drupal is a cms with a heavily extensible framework
[19:12:06] <debamitr_> kaustavdm: this does look slick
[19:12:11] <kaustavdm> if you want something lighter, go for wordpress
[19:12:16] <kaustavdm> the theme is a stock theme used
[19:12:25] <kaustavdm> didn't get time to work on the theme
[19:12:29] <kaustavdm> i'll remove it
[19:12:35] <kaustavdm> the core features are in place
[19:12:45] <kaustavdm> should be done by end may
[19:12:51] <kaustavdm> about the wfs-india site
[19:12:58] <kaustavdm> you can debut with a stock theme for WP
[19:13:07] <kaustavdm> there are a good number of free themes available if you search
[19:13:13] <kaustavdm> and then get the content up in place
[19:13:23] <kaustavdm> later on you might think of doing a custom branding for the organization
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[19:14:10] <kaustavdm> debamitr_, a theme like this http://kaustav.codebinders.com would be good for you
[19:15:19] <kaustavdm> debamitr_, i guess you already have a domain and hosting?
[19:15:26] <debamitr_> kaustavdm: not ye
[19:15:28] <debamitr_> *t
[19:15:44] <kaustavdm> what is the present site's address?
[19:16:03] <debamitr_> kaustavdm: there is none, currently we update everything on wfs-india.dreamwidth.org
[19:16:44] <kaustavdm> debamitr_, OT, there is another issue which keeps people from moving out of Windows, and hence to FOSS
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[19:16:58] <debamitr_> kaustavdm: what?
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[19:17:14] <kaustavdm> most of the useful software that people use professionally don't have a "linux" version
[19:17:31] <kaustavdm> take Adobe products as examples
[19:17:50] <kaustavdm> many graphic designers depend on photoshop, illustrator, fireworks etc
[19:18:22] <kaustavdm> gimp might be a good alternative to photoshop, but inkscape is no match, yet, for illustrator
[19:18:26] satabdi changed topic of #wfs-india to: Next meeting of WFS-India on 27 May starting from 9:30PM IST. Please join if you want to participate in organizing our next big event on 15 June.
[19:19:00] <debamitr_> kaustavdm: yes, so an agenda to create better products in foss might help our goal, wehat say
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[19:19:03] <debamitr_> *what say
[19:19:10] <kaustavdm> yes
[19:19:23] <kaustavdm> but achieving the quality of illustrator takes a lot of effort
[19:20:12] <debamitr_> kaustavdm: even GIMP is not as easy to use as photoshop -- I have done way more things using photoshop but I never could handle GIMP!
[19:20:19] <kaustavdm> but you can begin with giving a taste of c/python/lisp to .net programmers
[19:20:22] <debamitr_> kaustavdm: I think a GIMP workshop would be nice
[19:20:34] <kaustavdm> the main power of gimp lies in its extensibility
[19:20:38] <kaustavdm> for which you need to know python
[19:20:59] <kaustavdm> all the filters you see in photoshop can be emulated/improved in gimp, as a plugin ;-)
[19:21:04] <debamitr_> kaustavdm: okay, anything non-programmatic which can be done using gimp>
[19:21:14] <kaustavdm> yes
[19:21:24] <kaustavdm> it requires a good deal of un-learning
[19:21:28] <kaustavdm> for a photoshop user
[19:22:09] <debamitr_> kaustavdm: can you conduct a session on GIMP?or can you point to some good resources?
[19:22:10] <kaustavdm> i am not a designer, so i use gimp only for photo touchups, raw editing and occasional drawings
[19:22:17] <kaustavdm> i can point to resources
[19:22:32] <kaustavdm> i will be more comfortable doing something on git or drupal
[19:22:35] <debamitr_> kaustavdm: what's the good FOSS thing to create posters
[19:23:02] <kaustavdm> gimp of course
[19:23:03] <kaustavdm> :D
[19:23:04] <debamitr_> kaustavdm: git -- that's awesome, but we already have git people, maybe drupal could be nice
[19:23:23] <kaustavdm> emacs will scare people away
[19:23:27] <kaustavdm> what is the target audience?
[19:23:30] <debamitr_> I tried creating this monday's poster on gimp and I stumbled utterly
[19:23:41] <kaustavdm> newbies/seasoned/intermediate/advanced?
[19:23:51] <kaustavdm> go though gimp tuts
[19:23:52] <debamitr_> newbies only
[19:24:31] <kaustavdm> then don't do emacs
[19:24:41] <kaustavdm> no one will wrap their brain around it
[19:24:48] <kaustavdm> let me think
[19:24:54] <kaustavdm> are there any web development enthusiasts?
[19:25:33] <kaustavdm> is there any session like "introduction to the command line for newbies"?
[19:26:00] * SunuThePirate is back
[19:26:16] <SunuThePirate> re Hello :-)
[19:27:06] <debamitr_> kaustavdm: the group is empty, we are planning to get a target audience of college students
[19:27:08] <kaustavdm> ahoy! sunuthepirate
[19:27:27] <debamitr_> kaustavdm: so lower the level
[19:27:38] <SunuThePirate> Ahoy! fellow pirate kaustavdm
[19:27:53] <debamitr_> kaustavdm: I think gimp is the best bet to get newbies, but we need to plan a session around it
[19:27:57] <kaustavdm> i can cover things like what *is* the command line, how can you do some basic stuff that will take a long time to do in gui
[19:28:01] <kaustavdm> things like that
[19:28:14] <kaustavdm> i won't be able to give a session in gimp
[19:28:15] <SunuThePirate> Well I would like to call myself a web development enthusiast
[19:28:22] <debamitr_> kaustavdm: no point unless participants are using linux or mac
[19:28:30] <SunuThePirate> yep.
[19:28:39] <kaustavdm> debamitr_, the point is to show them the power of it
[19:28:40] <SunuThePirate> Windows commandline sucks
[19:28:55] <SunuThePirate> kaustavdm: Are you sure you can do it over irc?
[19:29:05] <kaustavdm> sunuthepirate, my all time favourite windows cmdline is "dir /s" :P
[19:29:15] <kaustavdm> will this be online?
[19:29:43] <SunuThePirate> I am assuming so.
[19:29:51] <kaustavdm> on irc?
[19:29:58] <SunuThePirate> debamitr_: ??
[19:30:14] <debamitr_> what's the q, I am lost
[19:30:22] <kaustavdm> the mode of the event
[19:30:31] <SunuThePirate> Is the 15th June event online?
[19:30:34] * debamitr_ will vanish in two minutes for getting some much-needed sleep
[19:31:29] <debamitr_> the edit-a-thon is online
[19:31:40] <debamitr_> but more events are planned
[19:31:49] <kaustavdm> i see
[19:31:54] <kaustavdm> well then catch some sleep
[19:31:59] <kaustavdm> we can talk tomorrow
[19:32:01] <debamitr_> actually last night's experience with a fully-online was not good
[19:32:04] <debamitr_> yes
[19:32:25] <SunuThePirate> exactly.
[19:32:37] <debamitr_> till then spread the word about wfs-india and get more women into our irc meetings
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[19:32:57] <SunuThePirate> I think physical events do a *far* better job.
[19:33:16] <kaustavdm> yes they do
[19:33:20] <kaustavdm> specially with newbies
[19:33:26] <SunuThePirate> yup.
[19:33:40] <kaustavdm> it has the added advantage of seeing someone in person who uses those tools
[19:33:45] <kaustavdm> instead of meeting virtually
[19:34:27] <SunuThePirate> yes. And tallking face to face is a better experience than e-talking to someone
[19:34:45] <kaustavdm> also it is faster
[19:34:57] <kaustavdm> and a good speaker can have more impact on the audience
[19:35:07] <kaustavdm> maybe, a meeting can be organized
[19:35:14] <SunuThePirate> Agreed.
[19:35:18] <kaustavdm> are people here mostly from kolkata/
[19:35:20] <kaustavdm> ?
[19:35:50] <SunuThePirate> Well I think satabdi and debamitra are in Delhi
[19:36:00] <SunuThePirate> I am in Bhubaneswar.
[19:36:04] <kaustavdm> oh
[19:36:15] <kaustavdm> so organizing a physical event will need more time
[19:36:20] <kaustavdm> and you have to fix a venue
[19:36:35] <kaustavdm> but some sessions are better if done offline, actually
[19:36:43] <kaustavdm> specially stuff like GIMP
[19:36:53] <SunuThePirate> I think we should do a physical event in kolkata if we can.
[19:37:09] <SunuThePirate> Because that would at least build a greater audience.
[19:37:35] <SunuThePirate> The audience of last night's event was a bit disappointing.
[19:37:48] <kaustavdm> Kolkata +1
[19:38:15] <kaustavdm> last night, i had a gathering at my place, so i was hopping between kitchen, laptop and attending guests
[19:38:20] <kaustavdm> mostly reading logs
[19:38:46] <SunuThePirate> btw we have a logbot now :-D
[19:38:54] <kaustavdm> oh yes saw it
[19:38:58] <kaustavdm> where is it hosted?
[19:39:04] <kaustavdm> python?
[19:39:10] <kaustavdm> (two separate questions)
[19:39:25] <SunuThePirate> the logs? or the bot?
[19:39:29] <SunuThePirate> yep python.
[19:39:38] <kaustavdm> the bot
[19:40:23] <SunuThePirate> the bot is on a server space provided to me by the nice people at moinmo.in
[19:41:06] <kaustavdm> i see
[19:41:24] <kaustavdm> logs?
[19:41:36] <SunuThePirate> Glad you asked :D
[19:41:44] <SunuThePirate> floggerthelogger: Ahoy!!
[19:41:54] <SunuThePirate> there ^^
[19:42:15] <SunuThePirate> http://floggerthelogger.github.io
[19:43:31] <kaustavdm> impressive
[19:43:36] <kaustavdm> good job
[19:44:32] <SunuThePirate> Not really. I just tweaked a opensource bot.
[19:44:53] <kaustavdm> jani, but doing that takes some effort
[19:44:57] <kaustavdm> so it is an impressive start
[19:45:03] <kaustavdm> take it on from here
[19:45:38] <SunuThePirate> jani = I know :D i know bengali XD
[19:46:06] <SunuThePirate> yep, as soon as we have a server.
[19:46:27] <kaustavdm> oops yes :P
[19:47:00] <kaustavdm> are you guys getting funds together to hire a server?
[19:47:42] <SunuThePirate> I don't really know. Satabdi is probably a better person to ask this.
[19:48:02] <kaustavdm> okay
[19:48:04] <kaustavdm> just a tip
[19:48:12] <kaustavdm> webfaction might be a good starting point
[19:48:18] <kaustavdm> shared hosting for great deal of features
[19:48:44] <SunuThePirate> what are the costs generally?
[19:49:39] <kaustavdm> 9.5 usd monthly
[19:49:50] <kaustavdm> have a look at http://webfaction.com
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[19:51:34] <kaustavdm> btw
[19:51:47] <kaustavdm> sunuthepirate, do you keep in touch with debamita?
[19:53:54] <SunuThePirate> Umm.. If you mean like personally, I don't know anyone in person here. I just wandered into here while surfing IRC channels on my pirate ship B|
[19:54:36] <kaustavdm> which ship do you use?
[19:54:49] <SunuThePirate> IRSSI
[19:55:19] <kaustavdm> windows?
[19:55:42] <kaustavdm> have you tried pidgin?
[19:56:16] <SunuThePirate> nope.. ubuntu.. but the irssi is on a debian server. the same moinmoin one.
[19:56:26] <kaustavdm> i see
[19:56:31] <kaustavdm> tried pidgin?
[19:56:36] <SunuThePirate> irssi cli irc client
[19:56:46] <SunuThePirate> so easy to use over ssh
[19:57:11] <kaustavdm> oh
[19:57:26] <kaustavdm> i use pidgin when i don't have emacs running
[19:57:27] <SunuThePirate> For GUI irc client, i use CIRC.
[19:57:29] <kaustavdm> else it is erc
[19:57:41] <SunuThePirate> erc?
[19:57:54] <SunuThePirate> never heard of it.
[19:58:36] <SunuThePirate> btw webfraction provides centos only as os ?
[19:58:38] <kaustavdm> irc client for emacs
[19:58:43] <kaustavdm> yes
[19:58:46] <kaustavdm> it is shared hosting
[19:58:53] <kaustavdm> but you get a good deal of other features
[19:58:59] <kaustavdm> it is cheap for a good quality
[19:59:16] <kaustavdm> of course if you need your own server, you can go for it, in that case the cost would mount atleast 4x
[19:59:23] <SunuThePirate> I am not much of a emacs or vi fan.
[19:59:36] <kaustavdm> hehe
[19:59:53] <SunuThePirate> I like sublime text :)
[19:59:53] <kaustavdm> i live in emacs, almost, except for natural causes and web browsing
[19:59:58] <kaustavdm> that is good too
[20:00:18] <kaustavdm> btw
[20:00:22] <kaustavdm> what i was trying to say
[20:00:37] <SunuThePirate> never tried emacs. but vi makes me seek.
[20:00:42] <kaustavdm> is if wfs-india has a short list of requirements for their website, i can help setting it up
[20:00:49] <kaustavdm> looked at my schedule, i can accomodate
[20:02:06] <SunuThePirate> Hmm.. actually i want to build it from scratch, Mani is suggesting cms. I don't yet know what the final decision is.
[20:02:24] <kaustavdm> which language/framework?
[20:02:27] <SunuThePirate> We have a tread about the specs on mailing list
[20:02:32] <SunuThePirate> let me find it.
[20:02:43] <SunuThePirate> python/flask or django.
[20:03:11] <kaustavdm> can you give me a link to the mailing list?
[20:03:47] <kaustavdm> if you want to go with custom development, think of whether you are reinventing the wheel or not
[20:04:11] <kaustavdm> if it is a basic site where you will post some content from time to time, using a simple cms like wordpress will save you atleast a week of development time
[20:04:51] <SunuThePirate> https://groups.google.com!topic/wfs-india/iCU_IyMjxtU
[20:05:01] <SunuThePirate> here's that thread.
[20:05:45] <kaustavdm> oh ,you used glugcal specs :D (bamby eyes)
[20:06:16] <kaustavdm> for the glugcal part, i initially wanted to do it in python
[20:06:22] <kaustavdm> but didn;t find other collaborators
[20:06:26] <kaustavdm> so had to move to drupal
[20:07:02] <SunuThePirate> We don't have anyone other than me so far.
[20:07:59] <SunuThePirate> I would love to code it from scrath though.
[20:08:26] <SunuThePirate> And django has reusable apps for most things anyway.
[20:09:33] <kaustavdm> if you want to do it in django, consider the time required
[20:09:40] <kaustavdm> if speed is a priority
[20:10:10] <kaustavdm> SunuThePirate: Tarashish Mishra, is that you?
[20:10:42] <SunuThePirate> Well if we want everything before 15th then it is certainly impossible.
[20:10:43] <kaustavdm> otherwise, you can put it on github, and i can fork and contribute there
[20:10:48] <SunuThePirate> Yep that's me B|
[20:11:00] <kaustavdm> which is why i suggested wordpress at the first place
[20:11:18] <kaustavdm> the requirement of the site, unless you want to go for a full blown spec like glugcal, can be implemented overnight
[20:13:09] <SunuThePirate> yes, doing a minimal one before 15th is a good idea.
[20:13:32] <SunuThePirate> We can do all other features gradually later.
[20:14:01] <kaustavdm> in that case
[20:14:06] <kaustavdm> go for drupal
[20:14:17] <kaustavdm> you would have enough scope to add features to it later on
[20:14:31] <kaustavdm> or even better, take present dump of glugcal source code
[20:14:38] <kaustavdm> and simply change branding
[20:14:54] <kaustavdm> i haven't added theme there yet
[20:15:12] <kaustavdm> that will address most of Mani's specifications
[20:15:18] <kaustavdm> if you are comfortable with it, of course
[20:15:30] <kaustavdm> https://github.com
[20:15:39] <kaustavdm> current update is on the development branch
[20:15:43] <kaustavdm> develop*
[20:16:08] <SunuThePirate> hmm.. that should really be quick and easy.
[20:16:29] <SunuThePirate> I haven't really used drupal, like ever.
[20:16:53] <SunuThePirate> You should totally join the mailing list and talk about it there.
[20:17:47] <kaustavdm> the only problem is it is hosted on google, and i don;t think google will let me signup using my non-google ids
[20:18:21] <SunuThePirate> you don't have a google id? :o
[20:18:24] <kaustavdm> yes
[20:18:29] <kaustavdm> but mostly personal use
[20:18:33] <kaustavdm> not public
[20:18:35] <kaustavdm> anyway
[20:18:37] <kaustavdm> how does it matter
[20:18:41] <kaustavdm> my name is unique enough
[20:18:42] <kaustavdm> :P
[20:19:49] <SunuThePirate> hehe :P
[20:22:19] <SunuThePirate> Whoa! you contributed to mozillian. I am trying to get my first pull request accepted there :)
[20:22:29] <kaustavdm> only a few pull requests
[20:22:33] <kaustavdm> mostly css
[20:22:38] <kaustavdm> didn't get time to do something solid yet
[20:22:40] <kaustavdm> hey
[20:22:43] <kaustavdm> how did you find me?
[20:22:44] <kaustavdm> :O
[20:22:48] <kaustavdm> oh github
[20:22:50] <kaustavdm> :P
[20:23:12] <kaustavdm> if you have a good pr, contact sancus directly on bugzilla
[20:23:21] <kaustavdm> and post in your bug there about your pr
[20:25:02] <SunuThePirate> I already have a pr and someone named glogiotatidis has commented on it already.
[20:25:15] <SunuThePirate> It's pretty basic. So let's see :)
[20:25:18] <kaustavdm> yes just saw it
[20:25:26] <kaustavdm> he is one of the most frequent contributors to mozillian
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